Ever feel like you’re sailing in the fog when it comes to today’s economy? I know I do sometimes.

Recession fears pop up, then disappear. Talent feels scarce. And business lending gets harder as rates rise.

To help cut through the economic uncertainty, I recently spoke with Gusto’s Chief Economist, Liz Wilke, PhD, on my podcast.

Liz brings a nuanced, data-driven approach to analyzing our economic outlook. She challenged my assumptions and avoided simplistic narratives.

We broke down recession odds, labor shortage impacts, interest rate risks, and vulnerabilities regional banks face today.

While the forecast remains murky, Liz’s thoughtful analysis gave me a clearer view of the waters ahead.

I’m now better equipped to navigate risks and opportunities with my own clients and business.

To get Liz’s insightful economic perspective, have a listen:

Key takeaways include:

- Why a soft landing looks more likely than a severe recession
- How talent scarcity shapes decisions across sectors
- Risks of commercial real estate loans as rates rise
- Potential impacts of bank mergers on small business lending

I hope you enjoy.